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Eliot Wilson's avatar

I think it’s worse than obfuscation. It’s pretending the problems don’t exist and that one thing means another thing.

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Ragged Clown's avatar

I served on Polaris in the 80s and Type 42 before that. I’m shocked at the state we are in.

Our submarines were something to be proud of when I was in and proud we were. I think we’d be so much better off with more Astutes than enormous aircraft carriers that don't seem to go anywhere. And if my vote had counted, we’d have ditched the bombers after Trident.

Bombers and and carriers seem more about international status than international wars.

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